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show about Nazis

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in a show about why hola hoaxers annoy

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me so much

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let's get to the number because I was

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forced because of this exchange that I

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had to kind of go do some is there new

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research being done which is one of the

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other claims that the whole hoaxers make

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is like hey they're shutting down the

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research there's no debate this is in

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some countries is banned by law well I'm

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now sharing on the screen published

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paper here it's published in science and

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advances or does this study identifies

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an extensive phase of hyper-intense

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killing in which 1.47 a million and a

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half Jews more than 25 percent of the

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Jews killed over the six years of the of

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World War II were murdered by the Nazi

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in an intense hundred day three-month

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search so that first clip was from a new

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Nazi movie on Netflix blood and gold boy

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I love those Nazi movies and the second

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was from an exchange ahead with today's

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guest Al Borealis from Forum Borealis

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who joined me to have this very very

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kind of intense in-depth multi-layered

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discussion about some of these issues

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now the conversation is just not going

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to make it on YouTube YouTube is so

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unfair how they censor you know and a

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lot of people still don't understand

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that how YouTube does this and you'll

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you'll go over to rumble this will be on

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Rumble and I if you want to watch the

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video you know you can go watch it on

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Rumble and you'll be like wow I've heard

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you know all of this stuff before in

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other places on YouTube but that's not

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how it works they still give you strikes

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for Content producers like me and small

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people and they're just arbitrarily I

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don't know who else gets it but Al talks

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about getting a strike too so you just

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can't do it on YouTube anymore you get

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striked out and then all the rest of

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your content that's ever been on there

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throughout history you know gets taken

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down as well so

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a lot of these shows that I'm gonna do

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are gonna wind up going straight to

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rumble and that's okay that's great in

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the meantime I'll play a couple of Clips

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here that I'll kind of add in and then

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you can just go to rumble and find the

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rest of the show or most people listen

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to this show in podcast form and there

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the censorship isn't so bad so for the

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folks watching this on YouTube here are

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those clips for the rest of everybody

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here's the full show

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okay so where I thought we might start

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is uh Johnny vedmore

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since we both interviewed him about

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Johnny vedmore is of course uh partner

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they've done some absolutely fantastic

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investigative reporting work we both

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tuned into him when World economic Forum

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stuff was especially heated up about a

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year ago that seems to have slipped off

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the radar a little bit but don't think

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for a second that they've that they've

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let up on the agenda at all so why don't

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you go back and tell folks about why you

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felt like the world economic Forum stuff

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was important at the time that you did

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it and then let's try and Link that back

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into this conversation I want to have

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about Nazis and Jews because I think

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that jumps us right into the middle of

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it in some ways that you didn't fully

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explore on your interview with them but

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I did so I'm going to use that as kind

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of a battering ram to kind of pull you

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into this thing

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I mean why it's relevant why it's

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important do I really have to argue for

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that but I wanted to focus on the Nazi

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of I mean that's Jewish it's too right

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well I think we kind of started there

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and worked our way back in that I'd

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again but I'll try and Roll It Forward

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yep I don't agree with your

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characterization about how the Jews are

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treated throughout history I think the

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Jews have a special relationship with

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the Christians that's built into the

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stew again it's built into Pontius

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Pilate saying that phony scene it's just

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as phony as Joseph is saying hey man you

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got the Messiah that's Vespasian

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the next fake phony thing is Pontius

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Pilate saying gosh I met with this guy I

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man I'm trying to go along with you guys

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but this guy he seems like a good guy to

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me this Jesus guy I wash my hands and

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the Jews say no no no he's got to go

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down let it be on us that creates a

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special relationship between

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Christianity and Judaism and both are

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participating in that relationship

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because there is no logical reason for

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Judaism to survive to thrive other than

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as kind of the Bobo doll the kick him

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when he's down object of Christianity

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Christianity defines but Judaism didn't

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survive

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what's called Judaism today isn't the

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same you know Hebrew was a dead language

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100 years ago they reconstruct it's like

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we take Latin and we Implement they say

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that I mean that goes because everything

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we've talked about in the last hour that

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Judaism doesn't survive when this is

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true demon if you talk with experts in

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in in Judaism

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hold up hold up most of the judic

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strains are dead what it has survived

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and is called Judaism today is a small

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segment of the original religions a very

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fundamentalist very poor representation

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of Judaism there is also some mystical

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things that survival Kabul Etc but

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basically most of Judaism is dead we

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have some survivors like the Hasidic

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Jews and other groups but anyway you

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know what I realized from from it was

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useful for us to go back because I just

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realized that what happened there

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according to at least your take on it is

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exactly the same that happened and

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with a notice after the World War II see

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the use and and maybe this was you were

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misspoking but you were right because

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you said uh the Christians and the Jews

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were having a special relationship fact

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you see your surface were operating

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um before they managed to hijack

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Christianity but it seems that that

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faction that Joseph is represented

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it's the exact same philosophy and

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ideology who took over Christianity and

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by year 325 after the third Council in

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Ikea they had complete control over

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Christianity that's when they flushed

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out all among others not just but among

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others the gnostics so it seems to me

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that that psyop that begun

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who knows when it begun but at least

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that Josephus represented that they

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succeeded in taking over Christianity I

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think it's the same people who Paul

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represented because his exact same

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figures Josephus Josephus was a Jew he

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was fighting against the Romans

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something happened you speculate he he

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got the knife on his throat and then he

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he was a chicken and sold them out

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and now he became more uh Catholic than

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the Pope the same happened with Paul

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Paul was hunting down Christians

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he was a mercenary he was a Roman

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mercenary again working for the Roman

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uh that this is my skepticism

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Revelation on the on the path to

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Damascus oh across in the sky and now

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I'm certainly look if I was in his shoes

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I would realize eventually God damn it

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this Christian virus is taking off I

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can't we can't just stop it by me

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killing random individuals how can I

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really stop this revolutionary impulse

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what if I pollute the whole thing what

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if we take over the whole ideology

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that's what eventually they ended up

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doing Paul did and that's what I think

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Josephus represents also in terms of the

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Jews so they both have a similar

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function and this is very similar also

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but we can talk about that later what

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happened with the Nazis after the second

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essence of what I'm saying here

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I totally understand I just I I really

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disagree in a fundamental way but that's

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okay because you know if we can't get to

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the point where we're in that kind of

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genuine disagreement then we're probably

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at the precursor of that where we're

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just completely talking past each other

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and we are not talking past each other

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we are basically handling the same set

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of facts I love it councilman osia

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Constantine you know all that you know

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sees the CR we could we could spend

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hours on that but I really want to poke

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you because it's the skeptical way

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inquiry to perpetuate doubt

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I you said okay Alex but I don't see the

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link and then I said well the link is

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right here the link is the blood liable

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the link is Jews are killing Christian

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children and this is like from 1500

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they're saying that and then in 1600

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they're saying that and then it dies

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down for a little hey we can all get

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along can't we hear and then oh wait I

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put the dump on that

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in Spain just one example of money

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complete opposite thing happened uh you

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also have it in this ancient city of uh

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what the what you're kind of you're kind

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of slipping wait wait wait the opposite

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happens too there are Oasis in Europe in

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this period where not only are they

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getting along they are directly

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cooperating there are schools of

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Education Muslims Christians uh use even

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non-abahamic religions are represented

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so so if we cherry pick parts of of

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history in Europe where they have been

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knocking down on Jews then we also need

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to balance that with the opposite having

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happened or at least balance it with

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other people than Jews being knocked

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down too not just we we don't because

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what we're talking about what you tried

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to bring us back to and I'm going to

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bring you back I'm going to bring you

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back where you did is the Nazis right so

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what I'm saying is the justification

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that the Nazis give to the general

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population in Germany and the world

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because remember at the beginning the

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Nazis are kind of like well what should

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we do with these people should we just

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them all out we want to we hate

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them we want to get rid of them and

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there's a lot of uh well like don't send

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them over here kind of thing ship them

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to Madagascar for example and the point

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is the point is that I'm making is if

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you don't go there in terms of tracing

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that back to the Josephus thing that I

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mentioned to the Pontius Pilate washing

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of your hands thing and I still want

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want to put you on that because you go

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well you know fundamentals no CR that is

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you can the fundamental belief of

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Christianity is Jesus and that Jesus

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dies on the cross this is the the

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fundamental point that he is rebelling

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Christianity yes he is rebelling against

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the Jews he's rebelling against the

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Jewish priests and he goes to the Roman

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Governor says I don't see any problem

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with this guy I wash my hands so when

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when Hitler reboots the blood liable and

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the idea that the Jews are actually

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kidnapping little Christian kids and

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eating them and doing all this other he

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is tapping into a deep deep

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psychologically planted social

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engineering project that began 2000

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years ago and so that's Point number one

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and I'm gonna slip in point number two

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is the only reason that that stays alive

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is because Judaism is dragged along

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in the wake of Christianity yes

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Christianity is fake and it's

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manufactured by constantinence used and

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stuff like that but you can't have

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Christianity go forward through all this

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history without dragging Judaism along

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and every once in a while as you point

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out not all the time but every once in a

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while you can dredge it up and use the

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same old thing and say gosh darn those

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Jews and remember they killed Jesus

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don't forget that and that's what this

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what

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do people care that he killed Jesus I

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mean I don't think anything is about

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this I think this is one of the

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intellectual or theological excuses they

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can use

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against Jews because God knows Catholics

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did it but you have to look at the

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pattern of how power operates it's like

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saying you know what it's like saying oh

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they're smacking down on the right wing

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the right wing they're smacking down on

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every wing that is not a part of the

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establishment this is like oh we are

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specially chosen as suppressed people

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they can see say they are Jesus Killers

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right but

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at the end of the day you should also

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hate Italians then because

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the Jews wouldn't be in that position if

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it wasn't for Pilatus so it doesn't make

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really a big sense that this is so big

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and who really cares who really cares

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today yes it's an ex very good excuse so

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let's grant grant that it's an excuse

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but the big picture is that power does

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what it needs to smack down on descent

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and with the Nazis uh they didn't even

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need a religion thing because

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they were just flirting with the

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Christianity in the beginning when they

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needed to build up the Nazi party

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eventually they came clean and said

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you know maybe parts of Catholicism were

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preserved because of the Bayern have

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they buy an influence in the Nazi

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philosophy but certainly very soon they

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SmackDown on the Protestant Christianity

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so

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uh

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some of ultra-conservative Catholics

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they pursued but they had no qualms with

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the fact that we don't even care about

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religion especially not Christianity

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because that's a slave religion we

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actually prefer Islam let's have Islamic

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SS battalions because that religion

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works very well because of its demanded

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submission to mold fanatical soldiers

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and by the way Islam has also built in

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for historical reasons and and enmity

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with Jews so this is perfect for us all

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the time we've already have pointed out

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Jews as our main scapegoat so

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are more hailing to a revised again a

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hijacked version but a revised version

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of Norse a paganism right and occultism

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so

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um I don't think this who killed Jesus

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is a big deal in terms of the actual I

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think it's a very good excuse for

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whoever needs it but having said all

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that I actually don't think that the

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Jews have any special claim and this

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will get you program banned probably

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from YouTube uh they have been

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persecuted but they haven't been

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exceptionally persecuted compared to

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other minorities other than that you can

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say that in Europe they have for certain

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periods because they much more than the

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other represented a power a potential

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power Bastion and they represented a

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secluding option that is dangerous for

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they couldn't control them in addition

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they had very brilliant people people

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who were smart people people who were

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good at

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doing things that at the end of the day

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also can be regarded as a threat to the

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powers that be so so the youths have

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been sitting ducks they they've secluded

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themselves they've been shunned

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they haven't done themselves any favors

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in terms of being Sitting Ducks of

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course the blame is on the people who

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persecute but look if if

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Jesus wasn't

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killed by Jews history would have to

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invent it to paraphrase our saying you

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understand what I mean I I do and now

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you're really treading into this water

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that I want to talk about because I

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think there is this what you're saying

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to me is bordering on

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anti-semitic it really is just in terms

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of your interpretation of that history

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and I'm not saying that I'm saying

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that's the place where it goes in so

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many in the

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community of the conspiracy have gone it

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doesn't mean anything anymore well let's

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let's listen to Dr Jason giorjani that

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my interview with him and this interview

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was about image cheapening because he

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went alt right

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he went alt-right for very specific

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reason and I'll remind people of this

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he is a

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an advocate for Iran an advocate for the

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Iranian people whose country was I wish

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that Persian

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no he he kind of corrected me in the

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interview and he said oh okay he said

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really it's not uh Persia is kind of the

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slang and it really traces back to Iran

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and Iranian and the origin of the word

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and Iran

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well he he's a PhD so when he kind of

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corrects you on that stuff with a long

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paragraph you kind of go okay I learned

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something

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but here's his thing is he's like

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Iran has been overrun by these

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fundamentalist Muslims I don't like that

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so politically I'm looking for a way in

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a way to facilitate the regime change

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that needs to happen and this is back a

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few years ago and what that leads him to

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he he looks to the left and he goes

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they're not going to have any part of

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that and he looks to the right and he

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says

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yeah maybe I mean maybe I could get in

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with Trump maybe I could push this

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agenda it fits more on that side than it

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does on the other side and all I care

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about is a kind of regime change in Iran

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so here's the interview that leads to

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His alt-right Image cheapening by

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partnering with the holohoaxers which is

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what I want to talk about next is hola

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hoax denial and how it has worked into

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so many ways and we can't root it out

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and I think kind of there's even some

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traces of it in in what you're saying

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Maybe not maybe not so we'll see to

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reach Steve Bannon and then influence

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Bannon on Iran policy that was the idea

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and in order to facilitate this

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uh it was proposed that I take arctos

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and fuse it with two other

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um right-wing institutions

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uh something called Red Ice radio and

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television which by the way used to be a

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paranormal broadcaster they had nothing

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to do with right-wing politics because

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here's where the thing starts sliding

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off the rails so Heinrich from Red Ice

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right I mean I know who he is I've

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listened to him for a long time

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it used to be like Art Bell and he would

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occasionally kind of slip into this you

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know kind of hola hoaxer kind of

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nonsense but you could kind of forgive

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it because it was a very small part of

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the content and hey shouldn't we be open

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to research even if it's wacky research

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and yeah and all sorts of wacky stuff

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turns out to be real and stuff like that

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but I mean at this point now I mean he

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is full full

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hold on beo Nazi hola hoaxer kind of

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thing so are are you saying I haven't

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spoken to him for four years so I have

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no idea you know I have no idea you can

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just go to his website I mean it's the

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great one is how he refers to uh Hitler

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he regularly has on people who are just

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uh you know the whole whole hoaxer thing

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really I guess it really tweaks me a

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little bit because it's

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anti-intellectual anti-history it seems

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like an OP to me because it's just true

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I can tell you it's not enough

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um I knew him quite well and and the

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more important point is that when I knew

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him back then he wasn't like that okay

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so we've got to remember this is 2016

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and if you go back and look at what Red

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Ice was putting out in 2016 he had only

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just barely started to turn in a kind of

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right wing political Direction most of

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it shows up to that point had been

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basically you know co-extensive with

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Coast to Coast content it was about 9 11

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it would

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I'll stop it I'll stop it there you

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could tell me what you think of Heinrich

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and red ice but I think in 260 2016 he

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was still slinging the all right man he

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was starting to sling the

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anti-Semitism stuff pretty strong and

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the Neo-Nazi great one uh and then maybe

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poor poor Adolf Hitler is misunderstood

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and the one the place they always go to

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which I'm going to talk about a little

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bit if we touch on is the 6 million

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number which is the key if ever they

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bring up six million like hey maybe it's

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not six then you know they're all the

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hoaxers you know they're hold of hoax

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deniers no I disagree with that but it's

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interesting with the red eyes why do you

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disagree I'll tell you but you ask me in

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my opinion of of this and I I haven't

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commented upon it many people have told

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us after we started that they look at us

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as The Reincarnation of it because I

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think they ruin their own show going all

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political it's true that they had an

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interesting show in the beginning

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but then you can see like you say you

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can see the gradual political priority

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uh taking place but then there's like an

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exaggered

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almost overnight it's like it goes slow

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slow slow slow and then boom

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and the the show is completely

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transformed so something happened there

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what I don't know uh but

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I agree with you that there is probably

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a Psy of component to the

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revisionism wave that went on back then

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it doesn't mean that

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those guys are a part of that that they

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are deliberate uh

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if anything I think they're Stooges for

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it but he was Jordan he was saying they

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are not compromised those people uh he

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may be right about that but you may

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still be right about the

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uh

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Holo hooks

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psyop but look

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we have to be able to be nuanced we have

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to be able to have different thoughts in

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our mind it's if you're going to play

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there if you say the wrong thing then

547
00:24:30,350 --> 00:24:28,740
you belong to that faction then then

548
00:24:33,289 --> 00:24:30,360
we're back to the black and white and

549
00:24:36,409 --> 00:24:33,299
the smear thing like anyone is you know

550
00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:36,419
it's like saying um if you if you're

551
00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:39,000
really an anti-racist you should really

552
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:41,940
smack down on people who abuse the

553
00:24:47,210 --> 00:24:45,120
anti-semit claim because it voters it

554
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,220
out and it means nothing if you for

555
00:24:53,570 --> 00:24:49,679
women you should really knock down on

556
00:24:56,210 --> 00:24:53,580
women who give fake rape accusations

557
00:24:57,950 --> 00:24:56,220
because it hurts women who are actually

558
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:57,960
raped you understand the philosophy here

559
00:25:03,409 --> 00:25:01,200
so in the same manner you you should be

560
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:03,419
able to discuss the Six Million thing

561
00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:06,720
without being oh you're a denier i for

562
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:08,820
my sake have seen enough historic

563
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,720
evidence to doped this six million thing

564
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:14,640
I discussed you've looked at the wrong

565
00:25:19,610 --> 00:25:17,460
evidence look the report thoughts before

566
00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:19,620
the second world war where they say six

567
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,260
million Jews have been slaughtered six

568
00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:24,480
million Jews this number goes back in

569
00:25:28,850 --> 00:25:26,700
time so you can see it from newspapers I

570
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,860
had this no it's just it's just

571
00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:30,720
it's just whole hugs or and you

572
00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:32,340
know I got pulled into this discussion

573
00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:35,460
just recently every once in a while I do

574
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,460
somebody shows up on the Forum they're

575
00:25:42,289 --> 00:25:40,320
usually I hate to say it but they're

576
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,299
usually from a Scandinavian country and

577
00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:44,400
the last guy was from Sweden and he

578
00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:46,380
starts spinning this stuff and their

579
00:25:52,850 --> 00:25:49,260
entry point in is always the 6 million

580
00:25:56,090 --> 00:25:52,860
and I had a discussion with John Irvin a

581
00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:56,100
while back who kind of became famous and

582
00:25:59,330 --> 00:25:58,140
it's always this very subtle kind of

583
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,340
they don't want to come right out and do

584
00:26:03,470 --> 00:26:00,960
it because oh my God they're so

585
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:03,480
persecuted for just doing research we're

586
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:05,760
just doing research well when someone

587
00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:08,880
puts out an idea that idea should be

588
00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:12,539
tested and when it doesn't hold up then

589
00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:15,720
it should take its rightful place not

590
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,120
all I ideas are kind of partially true

591
00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:20,159
equally you know the whole Flat Earth

592
00:26:24,529 --> 00:26:22,620
well I guess I should be spherically

593
00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:24,539
neutral about the shape of the Earth

594
00:26:28,909 --> 00:26:26,460
because I don't want to offend anyone

595
00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:28,919
everyone's ideas are equal so here's the

596
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,000
thing on the Six Million first of all

597
00:26:39,169 --> 00:26:35,520
the Nazis themselves at Nuremberg said

598
00:26:40,909 --> 00:26:39,179
six million that was their figure and

599
00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:40,919
those guys were pretty good at counting

600
00:26:45,409 --> 00:26:43,860
and they don't get it wrong which Notch

601
00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:45,419
is where these because the problem is

602
00:26:48,890 --> 00:26:47,100
that the guy who was behind it they

603
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:48,900
didn't take that's number one number two

604
00:26:53,149 --> 00:26:51,120
I'd normally they had a gun to their

605
00:26:56,029 --> 00:26:53,159
head number three those who were thrown

606
00:26:59,090 --> 00:26:56,039
to the Nuremberg process where the Nazis

607
00:27:01,909 --> 00:26:59,100
that they did not cooperate with they

608
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:01,919
are real anti-semitists were were yada

609
00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:03,679
yada it's it's

610
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,360
we're friends with American just

611
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:08,400
from hola hoaxers who are

612
00:27:14,029 --> 00:27:11,100
trying to advance the conversation that

613
00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:14,039
the conversation I'm going to share with

614
00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:16,020
you I'm sharing on the screen more

615
00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:18,600
recent research right and uncommented

616
00:27:24,049 --> 00:27:20,460
let me just say guring was at the

617
00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:24,059
Nuremberg he said who who is a Jew or

618
00:27:30,730 --> 00:27:26,400
not I decide who is a Jew or not he

619
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:34,310
let's get to the number let's get to the

620
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,440
number because when so I was forced

621
00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:40,559
because of this exchange that I had to

622
00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:42,900
kind of go do some is there new research

623
00:27:46,909 --> 00:27:44,460
being done which is one of the other

624
00:27:48,649 --> 00:27:46,919
claims that the whole hoaxers make is

625
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:48,659
like hey they're shutting down the

626
00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:51,179
research no it's very easy to find

627
00:27:59,230 --> 00:27:53,159
research here's what I found in article

628
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,630
well uh it this contradicts what you're

629
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:04,799
saying here Al because I'm now sharing

630
00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:08,159
on the screen published paper here it's

631
00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:10,740
published in science and advances but

632
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:11,820
it's a

633
00:28:18,769 --> 00:28:15,840
the authors and the affiliations and

634
00:28:20,510 --> 00:28:18,779
everything else and what they show is

635
00:28:22,730 --> 00:28:20,520
they went back and they they're playing

636
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:22,740
out the fact that they had some you know

637
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,200
unique way of using the data sets the

638
00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:26,880
data sets that already have that

639
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:29,400
everybody has and then Pokemon Ashman

640
00:28:34,610 --> 00:28:32,640
was not in in the

641
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:34,620
they never took him and he's uh

642
00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:37,860
allegedly the one behind it and his

643
00:28:41,690 --> 00:28:39,779
second in command were the dead before

644
00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:41,700
before the

645
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:43,260
um

646
00:28:47,390 --> 00:28:46,020
uh the trials so I don't see how you can

647
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:47,400
say that they said it themselves but

648
00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:49,200
let's see what does it say here

649
00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:51,480
it says using unusual data set

650
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,220
originating from Railway transport

651
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:55,440
records this study identifies an

652
00:29:01,130 --> 00:28:57,840
extensive phase of hyper-intense killing

653
00:29:03,470 --> 00:29:01,140
in which 1.47 a million and a half Jews

654
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:03,480
more than 25 percent of the Jews killed

655
00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:05,940
over the six years of the of World War

656
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,460
II were murdered by the Nazi in an

657
00:29:14,649 --> 00:29:11,279
intense hundred day three-month search

658
00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:14,659
so 1.5 million are

659
00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:17,340
murdered in

660
00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:20,760
90 days and that before the Allies take

661
00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:21,960
over

662
00:29:25,549 --> 00:29:23,880
uh yeah

663
00:29:27,470 --> 00:29:25,559
I think they're in a hurry right to

664
00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:27,480
they're in a hurry to get rid of all the

665
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:30,360
camp Jews before the Allies well we can

666
00:29:36,169 --> 00:29:34,080
go in and look at the but this if you go

667
00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:36,179
and read this article they kind of have

668
00:29:42,529 --> 00:29:38,760
all the the breakdown of where they got

669
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:42,539
all this data and yeah it's six million

670
00:29:47,389 --> 00:29:44,700
that's the number I didn't see that

671
00:29:49,810 --> 00:29:47,399
number I saw 1.5

672
00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:49,820
which is 25 percent

673
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,860
actually they say more than 25 of the

674
00:29:56,029 --> 00:29:54,720
Jews killed during the six years well if

675
00:29:59,149 --> 00:29:56,039
you read further around they have the

676
00:30:01,730 --> 00:29:59,159
breakdown of the whole six years and it

677
00:30:06,049 --> 00:30:01,740
adds up to basically just a shade under

678
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,059
six million so look let me say this

679
00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:08,399
I I have to say a couple of things it's

680
00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:11,340
very important number one

681
00:30:17,169 --> 00:30:14,279
this area can't be discussed freely in

682
00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:19,730
let me make some important points number

683
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,200
one it's banned by law you will be

684
00:30:27,769 --> 00:30:24,720
arrested if you have the wrong view on

685
00:30:28,810 --> 00:30:27,779
this uh thing in some countries in

686
00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:28,820
Europe today

687
00:30:35,149 --> 00:30:32,520
uh moreover you're being censored and

688
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:35,159
guaranteed smeared if you even try to

689
00:30:39,409 --> 00:30:37,440
have another opinion you'll end up like

690
00:30:42,730 --> 00:30:39,419
the red eyes people sitting in a

691
00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:42,740
basement in the complete on the ground

692
00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:46,620
that's number one so therefore per

693
00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:49,260
definition there is no clean research

694
00:30:54,889 --> 00:30:52,980
there is no like oh sophisticated we are

695
00:30:58,430 --> 00:30:54,899
hashing it out we're looking objectively

696
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:58,440
on all this it's too much emotional uh

697
00:31:04,029 --> 00:31:00,720
it's too emotionally loaded it's too

698
00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:04,039
many agendas there's a lot of stuff

699
00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:07,380
vested interests in a particular

700
00:31:13,250 --> 00:31:10,200
narrative so we can't pretend that this

701
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:13,260
is like any other objective trivial

702
00:31:16,909 --> 00:31:15,480
thing that we can hash out with ts's

703
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,919
anti-testinal synthesis that's number

704
00:31:20,570 --> 00:31:18,480
one I'm not saying there's no six

705
00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:20,580
million Jews I'm just saying this isn't

706
00:31:24,769 --> 00:31:23,220
a clean topic to pretend that we can

707
00:31:26,330 --> 00:31:24,779
find out I haven't even read this

708
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,340
article so I can't really comment to put

709
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,279
in what I can comment upon I will and I

710
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,919
will do it now but before I do that I

711
00:31:36,409 --> 00:31:33,840
want to make my position clear here

712
00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:36,419
number one my grandfather and this is

713
00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:38,279
why you will find more Nazis in Sweden

714
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:41,940
than in Norway my grandfather was in the

715
00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:43,919
resistance movement

716
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:46,500
he was spreading news about what was

717
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:49,140
going on they caught him they tortured

718
00:31:55,010 --> 00:31:52,559
him he removed his one of his fingers he

719
00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:55,020
had nightmares like all these war heroes

720
00:31:59,810 --> 00:31:56,580
in our country

721
00:32:01,549 --> 00:31:59,820
to his death I remember being a child

722
00:32:04,370 --> 00:32:01,559
and whoa what's this noise oh it's just

723
00:32:07,330 --> 00:32:04,380
grabbed for grandpa having nightmares

724
00:32:10,269 --> 00:32:07,340
again so uh

725
00:32:14,269 --> 00:32:10,279
Norwegians have no incentive to be

726
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:14,279
pro-nazis historically most people have

727
00:32:20,110 --> 00:32:17,279
someone in their family like me higher

728
00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:20,120
up who were you know

729
00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:23,100
tasted in autism on their body

730
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:25,740
and number three

731
00:32:30,889 --> 00:32:28,799
uh it we it doesn't matter if it was six

732
00:32:33,529 --> 00:32:30,899
million Jews or four million use or one

733
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:33,539
million Jews this is the big point so I

734
00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:36,120
don't understand these people who uh you

735
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,580
know they they start with doubting the

736
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:40,799
numbers and then and up seeking high

737
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,159
right because it doesn't matter it

738
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:46,080
doesn't matter at all all we need to

739
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,279
know is

740
00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:50,399
what was this political ideology what

741
00:32:55,610 --> 00:32:53,220
did it lead to uh what you know what

742
00:32:58,130 --> 00:32:55,620
what good is it or what bad is it it's

743
00:33:01,789 --> 00:32:58,140
plenty of bad stuff you don't need the

744
00:33:06,730 --> 00:33:01,799
number of Jews or people dying to know

745
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:09,289
non-constructive thing to be organizing

746
00:33:15,049 --> 00:33:12,000
uh Society by and that's the important

747
00:33:18,350 --> 00:33:15,059
thing because there are mechanisms in

748
00:33:21,169 --> 00:33:18,360
the Nazi uh philosophy and ideology that

749
00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:21,179
has survived they got rid of some exotic

750
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:23,880
stuff like the racial Stuff Etc but it's

751
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:27,600
still going super strong today and we

752
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,360
can get more back to that so look they

753
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:32,640
were suppressive they were anti-liberty

754
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:34,980
that's all you need to know you had no

755
00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:39,480
freedom to if they had one you and me

756
00:33:45,049 --> 00:33:42,360
could not say that six million Jews died

757
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,059
because we would have been in even more

758
00:33:49,970 --> 00:33:47,519
trouble than we are now if we say they

759
00:33:51,850 --> 00:33:49,980
didn't or you understand so so I don't I

760
00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:51,860
never understood these people who find

761
00:33:56,649 --> 00:33:54,840
problems with the war propaganda and

762
00:34:01,370 --> 00:33:56,659
then they go full notice because

763
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:01,380
obviously after 45 the Victor write the

764
00:34:07,329 --> 00:34:03,720
history and obviously there has been

765
00:34:09,950 --> 00:34:07,339
lies and propaganda exaggerate patients

766
00:34:12,649 --> 00:34:09,960
alterings of facts

767
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:12,659
this is what happens in in propaganda

768
00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:15,599
and especially after a war is won so

769
00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:17,460
when I see

770
00:34:24,589 --> 00:34:21,480
historical what looks as a

771
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:24,599
propaganda and lies in the aftermath for

772
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:26,639
example that Hitler died

773
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,800
I don't become a Nazi by that I just

774
00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:31,200
realized okay these are one of the

775
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,540
things like the moon landing thing of

776
00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:35,280
course there were this was a big

777
00:34:39,530 --> 00:34:37,859
propaganda Stone towards Soviet Union so

778
00:34:41,629 --> 00:34:39,540
but that doesn't mean they never went to

779
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,639
the moon it's the Nuance you have to

780
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:43,440
have the neurons what did you say

781
00:34:46,669 --> 00:34:45,179
I said let's not get so tricked on the

782
00:34:49,070 --> 00:34:46,679
Moon I mean that could be like five yeah

783
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:49,080
yeah I agree but it's an example of you

784
00:34:52,730 --> 00:34:50,580
have to have Nuance it doesn't mean

785
00:34:55,129 --> 00:34:52,740
either we went to the moon and it was

786
00:34:57,230 --> 00:34:55,139
exactly as they told us or we didn't go

787
00:34:59,630 --> 00:34:57,240
and everything is a lie there are

788
00:35:01,250 --> 00:34:59,640
realities somewhere in between and I

789
00:35:06,650 --> 00:35:01,260
think the same is here because here's

790
00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:06,660
why I'm I I cannot say honestly 100 that

791
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:09,060
I'm convinced it was six million Jews

792
00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:11,579
why can't I say that is it because I

793
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:13,980
have an emotional agenda or a polit no

794
00:35:17,870 --> 00:35:16,260
it's because I have seen

795
00:35:20,329 --> 00:35:17,880
and I can show you the same thing

796
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:20,339
because these are actually show me show

797
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,839
me you haven't shown me anything I keep

798
00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:23,040
showing you stuff and you haven't shown

799
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,900
if you want to come back if you want to

800
00:35:29,089 --> 00:35:26,640
come back and show me show me but

801
00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:29,099
otherwise I will show you I will show

802
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:31,980
you this is the classic thing look the

803
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:34,740
ethos of skeptico is follow the data

804
00:35:40,190 --> 00:35:37,680
look for the deception and then use

805
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,200
descent so the data keeps that's what

806
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,200
I'm doing to six million and the data is

807
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,599
important for you to say a couple times

808
00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:47,280
you've tried to slide you know well what

809
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:49,320
difference does it really make if uh

810
00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:52,079
just if Josephus said that and then he

811
00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:53,820
washed his hands and that we've always

812
00:35:57,650 --> 00:35:55,260
had this relationship between

813
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:57,660
Christianity and Judaism hell yes it

814
00:36:01,970 --> 00:35:59,520
matters it matters because the Nazis

815
00:36:04,609 --> 00:36:01,980
rebooted that as an as a way of

816
00:36:06,829 --> 00:36:04,619
persecuting the Jews and now you brought

817
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,839
up six does it really matter if it's six

818
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:08,880
million or five million or one mean it

819
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:10,980
does because here's the facts follow the

820
00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:13,200
data who said it at nerm who said it at

821
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:14,520
Nuremberg

822
00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:16,800
uh right here in this article you'll see

823
00:36:22,730 --> 00:36:19,320
that it's uh no less than our friend Ed

824
00:36:25,450 --> 00:36:22,740
elf Eichmann and uh here he says in wait

825
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:25,460
a minute Eichmann wasn't in Nuremberg he

826
00:36:31,069 --> 00:36:28,079
correct so the conversation he had with

827
00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:31,079
Eichmann so it said

828
00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:33,660
at Nuremberg but it's also said by

829
00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:37,079
Eichmann according to the 1961 testimony

830
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:39,240
of this guy who recalled how Eichmann

831
00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:40,320
told me that according to his

832
00:36:45,010 --> 00:36:42,300
information some six million Jews had

833
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:45,020
perished and until then 4 million in

834
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:47,160
extermination camps in the remaining two

835
00:36:50,329 --> 00:36:48,720
million through shooting in the

836
00:36:53,569 --> 00:36:50,339
operation units and other causes of

837
00:36:56,810 --> 00:36:53,579
disease and then in here they also have

838
00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:56,820
the Nuremberg testimony so in November

839
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,500
1945 Hotel who is the guy just mentioned

840
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:03,599
testified for the prosecution at the

841
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:06,240
Nuremberg trials so

842
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:10,680
it is said at Nuremberg and no one

843
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:12,480
denies it at Nuremberg it's the

844
00:37:17,450 --> 00:37:14,400
well-known figure and if you got

845
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:17,460
something else you can bring it I do but

846
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:20,160
okay pop it up

847
00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:21,839
well I don't have it readily available

848
00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:23,940
but you can find it among other things

849
00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:26,460
in Pharrell's book he republishers bring

850
00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:29,339
it there bring it sure we can lay it

851
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:31,260
over here in the aftermath of the show

852
00:37:37,810 --> 00:37:35,040
as a illustration here's the two things

853
00:37:42,050 --> 00:37:37,820
that make me doubt that figure and again

854
00:37:43,849 --> 00:37:42,060
if even if they just killed one Jew I

855
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:43,859
would have the exact same opinion of

856
00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:45,839
them well as if they killed six feet no

857
00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:50,220
no no a regime killing people murdering

858
00:37:58,130 --> 00:37:54,420
people is a bad regime why would the

859
00:38:02,030 --> 00:37:58,140
numbers matter one person's life is as

860
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,040
much no no if if if a regime is killing

861
00:38:06,589 --> 00:38:04,560
okay where do you draw the line then is

862
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,599
it okay to kill thousand people is it a

863
00:38:10,270 --> 00:38:08,880
cake till ten thousand where do you draw

864
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:10,280
the line

865
00:38:16,130 --> 00:38:14,040
you understand the data and it's

866
00:38:19,069 --> 00:38:16,140
important to understand the deception

867
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,079
what you are that's not my question but

868
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,599
here here you say it doesn't matter you

869
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,280
say it matters I say it doesn't matter

870
00:38:27,730 --> 00:38:25,920
the data ministers the data always

871
00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:27,740
matters because

872
00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:31,020
six million a million versus six million

873
00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:33,780
does matter and part of the reason that

874
00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:35,220
it matters both in terms of

875
00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:37,740
understanding history in the same way of

876
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:39,780
understanding whether or not Josephus

877
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:41,820
really wrote that understanding whether

878
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:44,400
or not uh Pontius Pilate really said

879
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,500
that those facts matter and when

880
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,480
Christians gloss over that and like you

881
00:38:53,329 --> 00:38:50,400
said which is the ultimate cop-out but I

882
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:53,339
get it you know who cares who cares

883
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:55,560
really well if you're Christian you have

884
00:39:00,589 --> 00:38:58,560
to care if you're supporting in some way

885
00:39:02,510 --> 00:39:00,599
if you're justifying or in some way

886
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,520
saying hey maybe that Hitler God wasn't

887
00:39:07,010 --> 00:39:04,800
so bad maybe the regime wasn't bad you

888
00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:07,020
better get the data right and if you say

889
00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:09,540
he he was really really bad and we

890
00:39:12,829 --> 00:39:10,920
should do everything we can to make sure

891
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:12,839
that that that that doesn't happen and

892
00:39:17,810 --> 00:39:14,820
we should root out the extent to which I

893
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,820
agree to which Henry Kissinger God bless

894
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:19,440
him but he's doing about the fourth

895
00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:21,660
Reich he bought the fourth Reich to the

896
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,300
U.S and we are living in the

897
00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:26,400
notification of America which we won't

898
00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:28,140
even get to because that's the subtle

899
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:30,900
Point that's an interesting thought you

900
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,079
better get those numbers right as a

901
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:36,000
starting point and you better understand

902
00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:43,430
is a way to not use it so you can say

903
00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:45,000
you can never get there but I just

904
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:47,160
showed you a study what do you make of

905
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:49,020
the following then because you're an

906
00:39:55,550 --> 00:39:51,540
honest guy so you will follow the data

907
00:39:59,630 --> 00:39:55,560
here's the data I've seen I've seen the

908
00:40:01,310 --> 00:39:59,640
newspaper articles genuine uh you know

909
00:40:03,710 --> 00:40:01,320
representations from back in the day no

910
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:03,720
no not fortifications you can pull them

911
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:06,960
up yourself well they say six million

912
00:40:11,089 --> 00:40:09,359
Jews at terminated four million Jews per

913
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:11,099
minute this is before the second world

914
00:40:18,109 --> 00:40:14,760
war this goes back to uh

915
00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:18,119
turn of 1800 1900 I discussed this with

916
00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:20,280
Pharrell and we we we kind of thought

917
00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:21,780
there was something ritualistic about

918
00:40:26,990 --> 00:40:24,599
this well as for the number of Jews

919
00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:27,000
killed in the second world war or in the

920
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:28,980
camps or what uh because those are two

921
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,240
different things

922
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,160
I've seen also newspaper articles

923
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,839
starting with I think it was 2 million

924
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:36,000
and then going up to four and then going

925
00:40:40,609 --> 00:40:38,520
up to six so I've seen different figures

926
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:40,619
there and if there were six million

927
00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:42,960
people died in a camp all of them

928
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,760
weren't Jews but if there were six

929
00:40:48,890 --> 00:40:46,800
million Jews died in the camp then you

930
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:48,900
have to throw in a few more million to

931
00:40:53,089 --> 00:40:51,119
account for homosexuals handicapped

932
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:53,099
communist socialist union workers

933
00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:55,020
Catholics

934
00:41:02,089 --> 00:40:59,940
um gypsies Etc so all in all millions of

935
00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:02,099
millions perished I'm saying from a

936
00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:04,339
value uh

937
00:41:09,770 --> 00:41:06,900
vantage point it doesn't matter if it

938
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,780
was ten thousand or six million why on

939
00:41:13,730 --> 00:41:12,000
Earth would you follow a regime killing

940
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:13,740
ten thousand why on Earth would you

941
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:17,040
falling a regime killing 100 people

942
00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:19,920
you can just analyze Nazism or any kind

943
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,720
of fascism and you can see okay these

944
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:23,940
people are not for Freedom they are not

945
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,220
gonna truth will have no matter here

946
00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:27,839
because it's all about the will of

947
00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:30,900
whoever is in charge like we see in

948
00:41:35,770 --> 00:41:32,820
today's corporatism

949
00:41:37,690 --> 00:41:35,780
censorship smearing

950
00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:37,700
demonization

951
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:40,859
also it's the the less intelligent

952
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,900
people you know mediocracy is being

953
00:41:48,050 --> 00:41:45,119
promoted intelligent people and

954
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,060
intelligent Society is decaying in such

955
00:41:53,870 --> 00:41:50,640
systems so you don't need six million

956
00:41:56,089 --> 00:41:53,880
Jews to be against a Nazi philosophy any

957
00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:56,099
thinking person would be against Nazi

958
00:42:01,730 --> 00:41:58,980
philosophy but if you're into truth then

959
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,740
you owe it to your intellectual honesty

960
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:03,839
to say hey hey there's something wrong

961
00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:07,320
with some of these most extreme send me

962
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:09,780
the gas chamber debate I never studied

963
00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:12,240
that thing so I I will never I will

964
00:42:17,690 --> 00:42:15,000
never say that I'm convinced that

965
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:17,700
everybody was perished by gas chamber

966
00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:20,640
what I know is that juice and non-jews

967
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,920
died in the camps that's enough for me I

968
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,720
don't care if they have a gassed or they

969
00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:26,880
were tortured in other ways that's all

970
00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:29,880
we need so this it's like a derailing of

971
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:32,339
the whole point of the discussion When

972
00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:34,320
people's start discussing these numbers

973
00:42:40,190 --> 00:42:38,520
and making a lot of vest Investments for

974
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:40,200
whatever these numbers are it's crazy

975
00:42:44,569 --> 00:42:42,660
man but if we are to discuss these

976
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,579
numbers we have to be honest and I'm

977
00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:46,560
honest because I've seen different

978
00:42:51,950 --> 00:42:50,220
numbers being published back in the day

979
00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:51,960
um I've not read this studies I can't

980
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,820
relate to that but I can relate to what

981
00:42:58,490 --> 00:42:56,160
the news media who were propagandists

982
00:43:02,690 --> 00:42:58,500
back in the day said about these things

983
00:43:04,670 --> 00:43:02,700
I could also have seen newspapers going

984
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:04,680
back to the late 1800s where they

985
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,440
claimed 4 million Jews dead 6 million

986
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:09,839
Jews dead what on Earth is this about

987
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:12,480
are we saying six million Jews have died

988
00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:16,020
like every 20 years since the late 1800s

989
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:18,180
no it's impossible so something is up

990
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:19,680
here there's some kind of psyop there's

991
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,300
some kind of propaganda thing there's

992
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:23,760
some kind of vested interest and we are

993
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:25,920
being sidetracked if we marry ourselves

994
00:43:30,050 --> 00:43:27,839
to the details of the propaganda and

995
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:30,060
then it's an either or either you're

996
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:33,240
against Nazism or you're for Nazism and

997
00:43:38,510 --> 00:43:36,480
how you approach these small Snippets of

998
00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:38,520
propaganda points will determine that no

999
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:40,440
that's crazy man you can be against

1000
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:43,680
Nazism just by a neutral analysis look

1001
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,720
if they never came to power but they

1002
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,280
published what they were thinking you

1003
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,200
could still be against Nazism because

1004
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:52,079
it's all there in their philosophy all

1005
00:43:56,030 --> 00:43:53,599
fascism

1006
00:44:01,010 --> 00:43:56,040
you can just analyze and realize you're

1007
00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:01,020
against this and when it comes to uh I

1008
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:03,180
challenge you again at what number is it

1009
00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:06,060
okay for a regime to kill innocent

1010
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:07,140
people

1011
00:44:12,109 --> 00:44:10,319
since you say it matters well it doesn't

1012
00:44:14,930 --> 00:44:12,119
matter one person and that's enough

1013
00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:14,940
matters it's a murder regime of course

1014
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:17,700
of course it matters and you know so

1015
00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:20,160
again you're going to bring it but you

1016
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:21,660
know here's another article I was just

1017
00:44:26,809 --> 00:44:24,960
pulling up okay okay ten thousand where

1018
00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:26,819
is the limit if it matters how many they

1019
00:44:32,329 --> 00:44:30,060
kill I say one is more is one too much

1020
00:44:34,270 --> 00:44:32,339
no one you say no it has to be six

1021
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,280
million you don't yes

1022
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:36,960
no of course I believe that the

1023
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:39,000
important okay let's take an individual

1024
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:41,760
at what point is an individual murderer

1025
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:44,880
to be punished is it when he kills one

1026
00:44:49,849 --> 00:44:47,280
person is it when he kills 10 person is

1027
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:49,859
it when it kills hundreds of people

1028
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:52,319
when is it okay to

1029
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:53,700
to murder

1030
00:44:58,190 --> 00:44:56,400
so you're gonna you're gonna bring your

1031
00:45:00,650 --> 00:44:58,200
evidence the latest article that I

1032
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:00,660
brought up said what I've heard every

1033
00:45:05,089 --> 00:45:02,520
scholar who's ever looked at it is the

1034
00:45:08,750 --> 00:45:05,099
number ranges between 5 million and 6

1035
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:08,760
million and most of the forensics

1036
00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:11,040
according to newspaper published after

1037
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:13,980
the world war well I just pulled up an

1038
00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:16,319
article and if you read it it says that

1039
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:18,900
the article published right after at the

1040
00:45:22,849 --> 00:45:21,180
Nuremberg it was that if you want it

1041
00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:22,859
okay so you you kind of brought it up

1042
00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:25,740
but there's different newspapers exactly

1043
00:45:29,870 --> 00:45:27,780
right so

1044
00:45:33,410 --> 00:45:29,880
and there were no Nazi newspapers after

1045
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,420
after the they lost the war

1046
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:35,040
there are several ways in which it

1047
00:45:37,790 --> 00:45:36,240
started to have been able but they do

1048
00:45:39,050 --> 00:45:37,800
admit that there's only six million

1049
00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:39,060
these methods

1050
00:45:43,790 --> 00:45:41,160
that's interesting so they do admit to

1051
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,800
the different claims yes there are

1052
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:45,119
several ways in which historians have

1053
00:45:47,809 --> 00:45:46,560
been able to derive a figure of nearly

1054
00:45:50,089 --> 00:45:47,819
six million and the fact that these

1055
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:50,099
methods have not changed since the

1056
00:45:55,609 --> 00:45:52,200
Jewish death toll was declared at the

1057
00:45:58,430 --> 00:45:55,619
Nuremberg trials in 1945 because it was

1058
00:45:59,690 --> 00:45:58,440
declared there the tribunal of Nuremberg

1059
00:46:03,349 --> 00:45:59,700
cleared that the number of Jewish

1060
00:46:05,329 --> 00:46:03,359
victims to be 5.7 million the tribunals

1061
00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:05,339
calculations as well as subsequent ones

1062
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,500
first examined pre-war and post-war

1063
00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:09,599
census to determine the population of

1064
00:46:13,970 --> 00:46:12,060
Jews in Europe before and after the war

1065
00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:13,980
then they go on and they have a bunch of

1066
00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:16,200
different ways of calculating it they

1067
00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:18,420
have the meticulous records at the death

1068
00:46:23,329 --> 00:46:20,940
camp when is this study from

1069
00:46:26,510 --> 00:46:23,339
well this is right after this is right

1070
00:46:29,089 --> 00:46:26,520
after understood you're starting at

1071
00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:29,099
Nuremberg trials 1945. no no that's a

1072
00:46:34,190 --> 00:46:31,140
source I'm talking about the study

1073
00:46:35,950 --> 00:46:34,200
the article the study is uh 2019.

1074
00:46:40,690 --> 00:46:35,960
hmm

1075
00:46:44,809 --> 00:46:40,700
2019 1.5 million in a hundred days so

1076
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:44,819
yeah it's just you know so just to be on

1077
00:46:49,849 --> 00:46:48,180
what I'm seeking is again the the

1078
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:49,859
deceptive part of this and how it's used

1079
00:46:54,650 --> 00:46:51,359
and how it's been used over and over

1080
00:46:57,290 --> 00:46:54,660
again which is this uh six million

1081
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:57,300
figure is the nose of the camel to get

1082
00:47:02,270 --> 00:47:00,480
people into this kind of hola hoax

1083
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:02,280
denial hey you don't really know

1084
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:05,599
anything there's some conspiracy

1085
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:08,160
I've seen I've seen the gas chamber as

1086
00:47:15,470 --> 00:47:11,700
the nose of the camel I've seen uh other

1087
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,480
things uh at least as effective being

1088
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:18,000
the nose of the camel they oh I guess

1089
00:47:21,470 --> 00:47:19,980
evidence for this evidence for that blah

1090
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:21,480
blah blah I never bothered to look into

1091
00:47:27,410 --> 00:47:25,200
it so therefore I cannot you know make

1092
00:47:30,770 --> 00:47:27,420
an opinion but I don't again I don't

1093
00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:30,780
need it I know they killed people I mean

1094
00:47:37,609 --> 00:47:33,240
it's still not long enough time

1095
00:47:39,470 --> 00:47:37,619
have gone by to really honestly say that

1096
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:39,480
if it were two thousand years ago we

1097
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,160
could doubt right but there's still

1098
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:44,160
people alive today who

1099
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,040
who were victims and certainly

1100
00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:49,680
relatives of people alive today so we we

1101
00:47:53,809 --> 00:47:51,540
don't really need but but for you it

1102
00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:53,819
matters obviously no no what matters to

1103
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:56,040
me is the Red Ice thing is the Red Ice

1104
00:48:02,870 --> 00:47:59,520
Radio thing and the undercurrent of the

1105
00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:02,880
whole hoaxer kind of vibe in our

1106
00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:04,980
community because I've run into it

1107
00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:07,380
multiple times and that's what I think

1108
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:10,140
Holo hola hoaxing does in Holocaust

1109
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:13,680
denial does is it sucks people in and it

1110
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:17,460
breaks apart this genuine concern we

1111
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,740
have of back to Klaus Schwab and what

1112
00:48:25,490 --> 00:48:21,599
they're trying to socially engineer US

1113
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:25,500
into if they can carve off a piece of

1114
00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:28,079
that group and say oh there they are

1115
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:29,700
those are the guys out there with the

1116
00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:32,400
Neo-Nazi flags and go talk to them and

1117
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,200
they'll tell you they have a bunch of

1118
00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:35,760
reasons to believe it and they'll say

1119
00:48:39,530 --> 00:48:37,560
hey did you ever look at the Six Million

1120
00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:39,540
figure and did you know the gas Chambers

1121
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:41,400
and they'll have and they'll call it

1122
00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:44,880
research and if you listen if you're not

1123
00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:46,740
tuned into this if you haven't done your

1124
00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:48,900
own own research at the end of the day

1125
00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:50,700
you'll say gee maybe there is something

1126
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,560
to those guys maybe there is something

1127
00:48:57,530 --> 00:48:54,480
to Flat Earth maybe there is something

1128
00:48:59,390 --> 00:48:57,540
to no rabies no virus and now you've

1129
00:49:01,849 --> 00:48:59,400
quarantined yourself into this

1130
00:49:04,750 --> 00:49:01,859
intellectual ghetto that you can't get

1131
00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:04,760
out of but you'll find Good Company

1132
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,020
it shouldn't be suppressed it should all

1133
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:09,839
be in the open and we should use

1134
00:49:18,829 --> 00:49:10,500
um

1135
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:18,839
Society people don't have the ability to

1136
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:20,760
do Source criticisms they don't have the

1137
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:22,800
ability to do proper analyze they don't

1138
00:49:28,250 --> 00:49:25,500
know how to do re-research I remember

1139
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:28,260
this video what's it called it's about

1140
00:49:31,010 --> 00:49:29,760
Hitler

1141
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:31,020
um

1142
00:49:38,089 --> 00:49:34,560
some Jude in England took he made a

1143
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,099
propaganda movie basically and people an

1144
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,079
impressive youths watching that who

1145
00:49:44,569 --> 00:49:42,720
doesn't know much about history they end

1146
00:49:46,490 --> 00:49:44,579
up thinking that you know poor Hitler

1147
00:49:47,930 --> 00:49:46,500
and poor Nazis

1148
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:47,940
um what's it called one of the most

1149
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:50,400
famous ones it was in YouTube had

1150
00:49:54,410 --> 00:49:52,380
millions of views so yeah people are not

1151
00:49:57,130 --> 00:49:54,420
skilled enough to

1152
00:50:00,109 --> 00:49:57,140
um yeah people will be

1153
00:50:04,030 --> 00:50:00,119
persuaded by uh

1154
00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:04,040
whatever propaganda manipulation

1155
00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:06,660
techniques come their way like I'm sure

1156
00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:08,760
the Jews were when they were screaming

1157
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,700
for Jesus blood so this is there's

1158
00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:13,520
nothing new in history here but um

1159
00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:16,500
what's interesting to discuss Alex is

1160
00:50:21,710 --> 00:50:18,540
the point you because we've we were

1161
00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:21,720
stuck in 2D now and it bores me deep

1162
00:50:26,990 --> 00:50:24,900
into the soul what is important to uh

1163
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:27,000
point out here is that while people are

1164
00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:29,520
fighting about labels and about outer

1165
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:31,740
manifestations like for example you have

1166
00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:32,880
Nazis

1167
00:50:39,730 --> 00:50:37,859
Nazi sympathizers who believe that

1168
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:39,740
Hitler

1169
00:50:44,690 --> 00:50:42,720
kill themselves and then your Nazis who

1170
00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:44,700
believed they didn't kill themselves and

1171
00:50:48,349 --> 00:50:46,500
they can't even agree and then you have

1172
00:50:50,329 --> 00:50:48,359
anti-nosis believing he killed

1173
00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:50,339
themselves and then you have anti-nosis

1174
00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:52,920
who doped he killed himself and all four

1175
00:50:57,890 --> 00:50:54,660
factions

1176
00:51:01,250 --> 00:50:57,900
use their story

1177
00:51:03,290 --> 00:51:01,260
to argue for why this is important now

1178
00:51:06,770 --> 00:51:03,300
we're getting it somewhere because

1179
00:51:09,710 --> 00:51:06,780
if you just realize that power

1180
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:09,720
do not is only loyal to one thing and

1181
00:51:16,190 --> 00:51:12,559
not this power it is to it's money

1182
00:51:19,010 --> 00:51:16,200
control brute force and it will use

1183
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,020
anything to stay authoritarian power

1184
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,359
will use anything to maintain control

1185
00:51:26,329 --> 00:51:23,760
the only thing actually in modern times

1186
00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:26,339
threatening it as I say it is Bitcoin

1187
00:51:31,309 --> 00:51:27,900
but that's another debate

1188
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:31,319
now if we realize that then we will see

1189
00:51:36,410 --> 00:51:35,040
that why the power the the Wall Street

1190
00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:36,420
fascists

1191
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:38,839
and the

1192
00:51:43,849 --> 00:51:42,359
whitewashed Nazis uh joined forces after

1193
00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:43,859
World War II

1194
00:51:48,170 --> 00:51:46,260
and there the story could have ended

1195
00:51:50,930 --> 00:51:48,180
there and you could make a Natural

1196
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,940
Evolution up until today but the story

1197
00:51:55,930 --> 00:51:52,800
unfortunately didn't end there because

1198
00:51:59,390 --> 00:51:55,940
those on the Nazis sides were loyal to

1199
00:52:01,849 --> 00:51:59,400
an exile power

1200
00:52:03,470 --> 00:52:01,859
symbolized through Martin Bowman Bowman

1201
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:03,480
died

1202
00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:06,900
um before uh you know in the early 70s

1203
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:09,540
and another guy took over and this

1204
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:13,020
faction has been very active as a part

1205
00:52:20,569 --> 00:52:16,079
of the power system another thing

1206
00:52:24,530 --> 00:52:20,579
happened Israel became a fascist regime

1207
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:24,540
very early and they buried the hatchet

1208
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:27,720
the last person they went after was

1209
00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:31,200
aishman after that even the Nazi Hunter

1210
00:52:36,109 --> 00:52:33,180
Simon wiesenthal was complaining about

1211
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:36,119
this after that they made a deal with

1212
00:52:42,049 --> 00:52:39,359
the powers in Argentina the Exile Reich

1213
00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:42,059
if you want and that was to move now

1214
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:43,500
everything would was to become

1215
00:52:50,809 --> 00:52:44,880
cooperatism

1216
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:50,819
and if you analyze the Israeli regime it

1217
00:52:59,150 --> 00:52:53,760
is uh like the South African regime was

1218
00:53:01,790 --> 00:52:59,160
it is apartheid and it is uh heavily uh

1219
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:01,800
fascist and authoritarian it has some

1220
00:53:07,569 --> 00:53:04,559
semblance deal of democracy it does but

1221
00:53:11,870 --> 00:53:07,579
it's very

1222
00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:11,880
decaying and accelerated now this is

1223
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:14,579
also an apparent contradiction huh why

1224
00:53:21,230 --> 00:53:19,200
could how could the Jewish state which

1225
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:21,240
was to be a supposed to be a sanctuary

1226
00:53:24,650 --> 00:53:23,040
for Jews how could that you know develop

1227
00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:24,660
so close to

1228
00:53:31,970 --> 00:53:28,680
Nazism you know we are the chosen people

1229
00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:31,980
because this is how history works it's

1230
00:53:35,710 --> 00:53:33,780
not about the outer things it's about

1231
00:53:39,530 --> 00:53:35,720
the inner things this is why

1232
00:53:42,290 --> 00:53:39,540
Christianity for example can go Islam

1233
00:53:44,569 --> 00:53:42,300
started as our Christian sect you can

1234
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:44,579
have our system starting with one values

1235
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:48,000
but sooner or later it's taken over and

1236
00:53:54,490 --> 00:53:51,200
it starts expressing other values so

1237
00:53:58,609 --> 00:53:54,500
today we have a

1238
00:54:00,890 --> 00:53:58,619
uh semi-fascist structure taking over in

1239
00:54:02,450 --> 00:54:00,900
the west especially in America but I

1240
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,460
would say include Europe too because

1241
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:05,040
there's no really descent anymore that

1242
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,640
you know it's the corporatism but on the

1243
00:54:14,030 --> 00:54:10,800
value things where Hitler were insisting

1244
00:54:16,970 --> 00:54:14,040
on goose stepping and you know measuring

1245
00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:16,980
the sizes of heads so the pigment in the

1246
00:54:21,950 --> 00:54:19,800
eyes so you know stuff like that

1247
00:54:24,290 --> 00:54:21,960
they have replaced that with the VOC

1248
00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:24,300
thing because they can take anything if

1249
00:54:27,710 --> 00:54:26,760
you go back to Bush's uh George Bush

1250
00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:27,720
when

1251
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:31,020
he was a symbolic figurehead then it was

1252
00:54:36,190 --> 00:54:34,440
more Christian conservatism values so

1253
00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:36,200
this authoritarian

1254
00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:38,819
creature can have any value system

1255
00:54:43,849 --> 00:54:41,579
attached to it I believe that they are

1256
00:54:45,770 --> 00:54:43,859
using whatever is

1257
00:54:47,569 --> 00:54:45,780
trending in the culture

1258
00:54:50,329 --> 00:54:47,579
but they don't really care about

1259
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:50,339
homosexuals they don't really care about

1260
00:54:53,710 --> 00:54:52,740
you know pregnant women

1261
00:54:56,329 --> 00:54:53,720
Etc

1262
00:54:58,430 --> 00:54:56,339
at the end of the day they only care

1263
00:55:02,690 --> 00:54:58,440
about what they need to maintain their

1264
00:55:05,870 --> 00:55:02,700
system but they use whatever is in Vogue

1265
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:05,880
or dominant in in the or a trend in the

1266
00:55:10,490 --> 00:55:08,160
system so right now they're using Vogue

1267
00:55:11,809 --> 00:55:10,500
but that vokness thing I think it will

1268
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,819
die

1269
00:55:16,250 --> 00:55:13,920
and I don't think it's long till we see

1270
00:55:18,049 --> 00:55:16,260
a die but it will be completely replaced

1271
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,059
with something else maybe the pendulum

1272
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:20,640
will switch back to you know the

1273
00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:24,240
opposite that women back to the home and

1274
00:55:29,329 --> 00:55:26,760
the man should who knows what values

1275
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:29,339
will be infused into it I believe anyway

1276
00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:30,960
politics shouldn't deal with those

1277
00:55:34,910 --> 00:55:32,940
things I think culture should deal with

1278
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:34,920
those things politics should focus on

1279
00:55:40,210 --> 00:55:37,680
how we organize Society the economics

1280
00:55:43,069 --> 00:55:40,220
the structure Etc but that's just me hey

1281
00:55:45,710 --> 00:55:43,079
so to my point then

1282
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:45,720
we have the same we have the natural

1283
00:55:50,089 --> 00:55:48,480
successes of these Fashions this the

1284
00:55:52,609 --> 00:55:50,099
children and grandchildren of these

1285
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,619
people are still in power and I don't

1286
00:55:57,230 --> 00:55:54,720
think these children and the these

1287
00:55:59,690 --> 00:55:57,240
grandchildren Believe In Those Old deals

1288
00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:59,700
anymore because when Kissinger grew up

1289
00:56:04,809 --> 00:56:01,920
they were actually racist the people

1290
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:04,819
surrounding him were the old Wall Street

1291
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:07,680
fascist people and they were

1292
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:11,040
horribly racist and they were thoroughly

1293
00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:13,079
sexist and they were thoroughly you know

1294
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:15,000
I don't always call for other religions

1295
00:56:20,930 --> 00:56:17,280
but they had those views they have died

1296
00:56:23,809 --> 00:56:20,940
out but has this system changed on the

1297
00:56:27,230 --> 00:56:23,819
outside yes we've had uh you know the

1298
00:56:29,390 --> 00:56:27,240
hippie Revolution or free sex so certain

1299
00:56:31,609 --> 00:56:29,400
cultural values have changed but if you

1300
00:56:34,670 --> 00:56:31,619
look at the real mechanisms of what's

1301
00:56:37,010 --> 00:56:34,680
going on politically it's worse I would

1302
00:56:38,510 --> 00:56:37,020
say now than ever or maybe it's not

1303
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:38,520
worse than ever because it was probably

1304
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:41,760
worse before we got the internet but we

1305
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:43,920
had this taste of freedom for a while

1306
00:56:49,069 --> 00:56:46,380
and now they try to roll it back to how

1307
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:49,079
it was before the Internet only it's

1308
00:56:53,450 --> 00:56:50,640
going to be worse because before the

1309
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:53,460
internet we had Free Press

1310
00:56:58,130 --> 00:56:55,200
physical press we don't have that

1311
00:57:00,650 --> 00:56:58,140
anymore so we're stuck in Fascism and we

1312
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:00,660
don't realize it because we're we just

1313
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:02,640
look at the symbolism or what is the

1314
00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:06,000
color of the flag what is the you know

1315
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:10,500
uh what do they call it value briefing

1316
00:57:15,410 --> 00:57:11,280
no

1317
00:57:17,450 --> 00:57:15,420
you're a little bit closer to the mic if

1318
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:17,460
you can yeah value briefing is that what

1319
00:57:23,450 --> 00:57:19,680
they call it when you

1320
00:57:25,549 --> 00:57:23,460
oh you know you you you virtue signaling

1321
00:57:28,670 --> 00:57:25,559
you know the virtue signal and they fall

1322
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:28,680
for that it's like the old cartoon

1323
00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:31,920
one American bomb is gray the other one

1324
00:57:36,770 --> 00:57:34,920
has rainbow flags and Etc this is the

1325
00:57:38,930 --> 00:57:36,780
difference this is difference without

1326
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:38,940
distinction this is what we have to

1327
00:57:42,650 --> 00:57:41,040
understand and it's true if you go back

1328
00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:42,660
two thousand years to do your surface

1329
00:57:48,609 --> 00:57:45,420
things and the birth of Christianity is

1330
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:48,619
true about the 1945 and the Holocaust

1331
00:57:52,849 --> 00:57:51,359
and it's not just in Sim this is the

1332
00:57:55,130 --> 00:57:52,859
last point I want to make in this round

1333
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,140
it's not just a symbolism that's the

1334
00:58:00,109 --> 00:57:57,839
same uh I mean not December the essence

1335
00:58:02,809 --> 00:58:00,119
that's the same it's not just the arch

1336
00:58:04,730 --> 00:58:02,819
type or the values that is the same it's

1337
00:58:08,329 --> 00:58:04,740
also it's more it's worse than that it's

1338
00:58:10,849 --> 00:58:08,339
an historical lineage it's an actual

1339
00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:10,859
inheritance it's the same people in

1340
00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:12,900
power and the children of those people

1341
00:58:17,210 --> 00:58:15,000
and you can track this historically I've

1342
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:17,220
done this in many shows plenty of

1343
00:58:21,230 --> 00:58:18,720
researchers has done this you can track

1344
00:58:24,410 --> 00:58:21,240
it historically back so you see a direct

1345
00:58:26,990 --> 00:58:24,420
line it's not just that Bankers woke up

1346
00:58:29,329 --> 00:58:27,000
one day and now they're you know agree

1347
00:58:31,790 --> 00:58:29,339
with their forebears it's the direct

1348
00:58:34,130 --> 00:58:31,800
line it's the same people it's the same

1349
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,140
factions it's the same values these

1350
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,480
values are anti-humanistic they are

1351
00:58:40,370 --> 00:58:38,880
anti-liberty

1352
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:40,380
and they are

1353
00:58:45,710 --> 00:58:42,960
Pro Elite but that elite doesn't have to

1354
00:58:47,450 --> 00:58:45,720
be defined religiously in terms of Jew

1355
00:58:50,690 --> 00:58:47,460
or Christian it doesn't have to be

1356
00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:50,700
defined ethnically like you know an

1357
00:58:57,230 --> 00:58:53,640
Aryan or or a Jew or whatever if that's

1358
00:59:01,690 --> 00:58:57,240
even a ethnicity it you can put an or

1359
00:59:05,390 --> 00:59:01,700
class for that matter so it's the elites

1360
00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:05,400
and how they have you know the ruling

1361
00:59:09,230 --> 00:59:07,020
philosophy and the release and the

1362
00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:09,240
future Elites are heading all the way

1363
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:12,420
down to transhumanism which has been

1364
00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:15,359
present among all these manifestations

1365
00:59:20,210 --> 00:59:17,880
not just the Nazis

1366
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:20,220
so so that's my point and if you discuss

1367
00:59:26,510 --> 00:59:22,319
it like that then we can Elevate this

1368
00:59:28,670 --> 00:59:26,520
discussion to uh more 3 or 4D level so

1369
00:59:31,130 --> 00:59:28,680
let me ask you this as we kind of move

1370
00:59:34,010 --> 00:59:31,140
to kind of wrap this up

1371
00:59:37,370 --> 00:59:34,020
so you know back to my original premise

1372
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:37,380
for kind of doing this show and you've

1373
00:59:41,089 --> 00:59:39,599
been you've added a lot to it and I knew

1374
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,099
that you would because I know this is

1375
00:59:44,690 --> 00:59:43,200
something that you've looked at from a

1376
00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:44,700
lot of different angles different from

1377
00:59:48,109 --> 00:59:45,540
me

1378
00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:48,119
but to what extent the the basic premise

1379
00:59:52,609 --> 00:59:50,220
from these Johnny vedmore thing and the

1380
00:59:56,829 --> 00:59:52,619
Klaus Schwab thing and his I think it's

1381
00:59:59,870 --> 00:59:56,839
a head fake to to tie that to the Nazis

1382
01:00:02,270 --> 00:59:59,880
unless we're going to say send it to the

1383
01:00:05,809 --> 01:00:02,280
American Nazis we're the Nazis you know

1384
01:00:07,849 --> 01:00:05,819
it's Henry Kissinger is the next Nazi

1385
01:00:08,829 --> 01:00:07,859
that is the

1386
01:00:12,650 --> 01:00:08,839
um

1387
01:00:14,809 --> 01:00:12,660
that is part of this thing okay to what

1388
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:14,819
extent do

1389
01:00:20,510 --> 01:00:18,240
our understanding of Nazis Define our

1390
01:00:23,230 --> 01:00:20,520
understanding of Jews to what extent

1391
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:23,240
does our understanding of Jews Define

1392
01:00:28,730 --> 01:00:26,640
our understanding of Nazis I'll let you

1393
01:00:30,289 --> 01:00:28,740
have the floor okay look wrap it up but

1394
01:00:32,930 --> 01:00:30,299
I do want to say thank you so much for

1395
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:32,940
doing this with me yeah but this is it's

1396
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,520
a new bag look man the American state

1397
01:00:42,049 --> 01:00:37,200
was hijacked

1398
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:42,059
after World War II and the final

1399
01:00:48,109 --> 01:00:44,880
um move the final step of that hijack

1400
01:00:50,870 --> 01:00:48,119
was the assassination of JFK by the way

1401
01:00:54,589 --> 01:00:50,880
oh I hope RFK

1402
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:54,599
can make a difference but this is the

1403
01:00:58,670 --> 01:00:56,640
you have to understand that this plague

1404
01:01:01,309 --> 01:00:58,680
is still among us and it goes directly

1405
01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,319
back to the Nazis it does not go back to

1406
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:03,599
the Hitler faction because Hitler went

1407
01:01:11,450 --> 01:01:07,680
rogue okay so so they uh

1408
01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:11,460
kind of uh he was authorized eventually

1409
01:01:17,150 --> 01:01:13,380
but

1410
01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:17,160
it goes back to the the value system

1411
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,500
that they had it goes also back to the

1412
01:01:23,210 --> 01:01:21,599
American fascist the Wall Street fascist

1413
01:01:27,230 --> 01:01:23,220
let's just call them that

1414
01:01:31,549 --> 01:01:27,240
and these people try to fuse

1415
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,559
the topple Churchill and Hitler it with

1416
01:01:36,589 --> 01:01:33,359
a husk coming to England and said right

1417
01:01:40,809 --> 01:01:36,599
failed but they managed to fuse it after

1418
01:01:44,809 --> 01:01:40,819
the war after FDR died or was killed

1419
01:01:47,530 --> 01:01:44,819
and but but whatever you think open to

1420
01:01:49,609 --> 01:01:47,540
that point whether you think or um

1421
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:49,619
Roosevelt was killed or whether you

1422
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:50,880
think Hitler so why it doesn't matter

1423
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:53,040
because you can just start there and

1424
01:01:57,530 --> 01:01:55,200
then you can see that they're fused they

1425
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:57,540
fused with their networks with the Spy

1426
01:02:02,329 --> 01:01:59,760
networks they're fused with the banking

1427
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:02,339
and the corporation system they're fused

1428
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:07,680
with the scientists and CIA became

1429
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:11,520
dominated by Nazis loyal to an extra

1430
01:02:16,490 --> 01:02:13,680
Territorial state not loyal to the

1431
01:02:19,250 --> 01:02:16,500
president they lost control on the

1432
01:02:21,289 --> 01:02:19,260
American side not the Joseph feral stuff

1433
01:02:22,849 --> 01:02:21,299
it just and I'm not just down with some

1434
01:02:24,049 --> 01:02:22,859
yeah I'm down with some of that but I

1435
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:24,059
mean they're kind of going a far field

1436
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:26,160
because I was bringing it back to the to

1437
01:02:31,849 --> 01:02:29,119
the Jewish thing which you can't

1438
01:02:33,770 --> 01:02:31,859
use you can't play no no no no you can't

1439
01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:33,780
square that and that's one of the things

1440
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:35,640
that they go the people go with that

1441
01:02:41,809 --> 01:02:38,160
with the Breakaway civilization you

1442
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:41,819
can't account for you know Epstein was

1443
01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:43,680
about and it's so interesting to hear

1444
01:02:50,410 --> 01:02:45,660
all the people are interested now in in

1445
01:02:50,420 --> 01:02:55,150
Epstein is Mossad at the same time

1446
01:03:00,049 --> 01:02:58,190
so I think you know yeah I I don't want

1447
01:03:02,450 --> 01:03:00,059
to go there and tune into the 2D 3D 5D

1448
01:03:04,430 --> 01:03:02,460
who the care isn't that's no but we can

1449
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:04,440
take it too deep but the point the point

1450
01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:07,440
is that that there is another there is

1451
01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:09,900
another player on the field as Joseph

1452
01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:12,780
Farrell correctly points out that has to

1453
01:03:17,030 --> 01:03:15,599
be kind of factored in here and we can't

1454
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:17,040
do it in the time we have left we've

1455
01:03:20,809 --> 01:03:18,240
already gone for two and a half hours

1456
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:20,819
but let's not let's not Factor them in

1457
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:24,079
let's just see that the CIA

1458
01:03:30,109 --> 01:03:26,720
uh the NATO

1459
01:03:32,210 --> 01:03:30,119
noso the corporations and the banking

1460
01:03:34,250 --> 01:03:32,220
system just take those five Power

1461
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:34,260
Players among many

1462
01:03:39,470 --> 01:03:37,200
even un actually we're dominated by

1463
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:39,480
people with the same value system both

1464
01:03:46,130 --> 01:03:41,760
on the American side and on the Exxon

1465
01:03:48,349 --> 01:03:46,140
Nancy side and included in this became

1466
01:03:53,150 --> 01:03:48,359
the new Jewish state

1467
01:03:57,470 --> 01:03:53,160
like a socialist project but it soon

1468
01:03:59,569 --> 01:03:57,480
ended up in a fascist manifestation

1469
01:04:00,770 --> 01:03:59,579
which is the science evidence isn't

1470
01:04:01,910 --> 01:04:00,780
there for that you know it's a really

1471
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:01,920
good book I know if you read it

1472
01:04:07,010 --> 01:04:04,920
phenomena by uh Annie Jacobson and she

1473
01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:07,020
traces the whole mind control thing and

1474
01:04:12,250 --> 01:04:09,480
the whole thing yeah to Soviet yeah it's

1475
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:12,260
a Psy up the whole book is a scope

1476
01:04:18,650 --> 01:04:15,900
what is that what is so happy about it

1477
01:04:21,349 --> 01:04:18,660
which which of a book by the way

1478
01:04:23,870 --> 01:04:21,359
I just told you phenomena

1479
01:04:27,049 --> 01:04:23,880
oh okay I always referring to the one uh

1480
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:27,059
the Ross will uh uh thing well I don't

1481
01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:29,280
trust her because she uh here's a reason

1482
01:04:35,150 --> 01:04:32,099
first you don't know that you don't know

1483
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:35,160
the research so the but the point is if

1484
01:04:39,470 --> 01:04:37,440
you look at phenomena you look at the

1485
01:04:41,569 --> 01:04:39,480
history of MK Ultra you look at the

1486
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:41,579
history of Mind Control you look at the

1487
01:04:46,609 --> 01:04:44,640
she's a limited hangout man she is a

1488
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:46,619
limited hangout but when The Limited

1489
01:04:52,910 --> 01:04:50,160
hangout is hanging out more than anyone

1490
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:52,920
else then that is your starting point

1491
01:05:00,910 --> 01:04:56,480
for The Limited hangout and so you know

1492
01:05:02,990 --> 01:05:00,920
a limited hangout against what is the

1493
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:03,000
mainstream scientific understanding

1494
01:05:06,829 --> 01:05:05,520
which is that Consciousness is totally a

1495
01:05:08,809 --> 01:05:06,839
byproduct of the brain and nothing

1496
01:05:11,150 --> 01:05:08,819
happens and there is no extended realm

1497
01:05:13,970 --> 01:05:11,160
so we need a limited hangout that

1498
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:13,980
rejects that idea and we also remember

1499
01:05:18,650 --> 01:05:16,319
the one of the most compelling Parts I

1500
01:05:20,990 --> 01:05:18,660
thought of the book is at the end when

1501
01:05:23,150 --> 01:05:21,000
she's talking about Erie Geller in the

1502
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:23,160
long history of the early early and

1503
01:05:26,990 --> 01:05:24,960
anyone you know can go watch the videos

1504
01:05:28,430 --> 01:05:27,000
that they did at the Stanford Research

1505
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:28,440
Institute or the experiments they did

1506
01:05:35,030 --> 01:05:31,440
with URI Geller but where she is at

1507
01:05:36,530 --> 01:05:35,040
she's in Israel with URI Geller and he's

1508
01:05:38,329 --> 01:05:36,540
gone around and bending all the spoons

1509
01:05:40,730 --> 01:05:38,339
like he does which doesn't make any

1510
01:05:42,410 --> 01:05:40,740
sense it completely defies our

1511
01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:42,420
understanding of Science in the same way

1512
01:05:48,410 --> 01:05:45,540
that UFOs do you cannot bend spoons like

1513
01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:48,420
that it's not a trick other people Dean

1514
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:50,520
Rayden has one on his has one on his

1515
01:05:56,030 --> 01:05:53,280
desk of a bent spoon not by URI Geller

1516
01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:56,040
there's literally hundreds and hundreds

1517
01:06:00,530 --> 01:05:58,319
of people who've attended spoon bending

1518
01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:00,540
parties and this happens so it's real

1519
01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:04,400
but URI Geller is their meeting with

1520
01:06:11,569 --> 01:06:08,880
Mossad intelligence why and while Annie

1521
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:11,579
Jacobson is there at the residence of

1522
01:06:17,809 --> 01:06:14,280
the prime minister so it puts a

1523
01:06:20,089 --> 01:06:17,819
different perspective no it's not all oh

1524
01:06:23,089 --> 01:06:20,099
these fascists are kind of teamed up

1525
01:06:25,010 --> 01:06:23,099
everyone has their own Jersey in his

1526
01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:25,020
play in their own game and that's

1527
01:06:30,650 --> 01:06:28,020
factions among the power Elites sure

1528
01:06:32,569 --> 01:06:30,660
factions and power Elites I mean

1529
01:06:34,910 --> 01:06:32,579
factions among

1530
01:06:38,450 --> 01:06:34,920
the war you say power elite somebody has

1531
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:38,460
to run the world so that that is that is

1532
01:06:43,069 --> 01:06:40,319
the point really that's throughout

1533
01:06:44,930 --> 01:06:43,079
history someone is going to grab control

1534
01:06:48,349 --> 01:06:44,940
and run the world and it's going to be

1535
01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:48,359
one group or another so it is factions

1536
01:06:55,010 --> 01:06:52,079
among the power elite That's History yep

1537
01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:55,020
yep well I mean there's no contradiction

1538
01:06:59,630 --> 01:06:57,420
uh this is the problem people think it's

1539
01:07:02,870 --> 01:06:59,640
a contradiction because suddenly they

1540
01:07:06,049 --> 01:07:02,880
say see Jews or scionists which isn't

1541
01:07:08,270 --> 01:07:06,059
the same thing uh in play some juice and

1542
01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:08,280
some scientists in play and even the

1543
01:07:11,690 --> 01:07:10,260
state of Israel and Musa didn't play of

1544
01:07:15,289 --> 01:07:11,700
course there have been a part of the

1545
01:07:16,670 --> 01:07:15,299
power elite since uh uh I don't know 60s

1546
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:16,680
at least

1547
01:07:22,609 --> 01:07:19,680
so that's not a contradiction uh as for

1548
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:22,619
Annie Jacobson remember her sources are

1549
01:07:27,890 --> 01:07:25,440
it's like this really whistleblowers

1550
01:07:30,109 --> 01:07:27,900
versus fake Vin man or whatever they

1551
01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:30,119
call it he's called this Ukrainian guy

1552
01:07:35,529 --> 01:07:33,960
who who did uh Trump gate you know

1553
01:07:39,410 --> 01:07:35,539
Russia gate

1554
01:07:42,589 --> 01:07:39,420
he's boosted by the by the powers that

1555
01:07:43,849 --> 01:07:42,599
be whereas Assange is what do you know

1556
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:43,859
that it's fine it's not what she's

1557
01:07:48,170 --> 01:07:46,680
reporting on MK Ultra I know it pretty

1558
01:07:50,990 --> 01:07:48,180
well and I didn't find it I know I

1559
01:07:53,930 --> 01:07:51,000
didn't find anything that contradicted

1560
01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:53,940
what I already knew the only thing I

1561
01:07:58,849 --> 01:07:56,760
found is limited hangout pulling up

1562
01:08:02,089 --> 01:07:58,859
short of in the same way that you do

1563
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:02,099
which is that I'll explain it it's a

1564
01:08:07,010 --> 01:08:04,079
good question but give me time to to

1565
01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:07,020
explain it so what you did with the book

1566
01:08:12,770 --> 01:08:11,220
before there is that she uh as soon yeah

1567
01:08:15,529 --> 01:08:12,780
it's a pattern it's a pattern let me

1568
01:08:19,010 --> 01:08:15,539
explain first she immediately after

1569
01:08:22,010 --> 01:08:19,020
Pharrell's book Roswell and rosh she

1570
01:08:23,749 --> 01:08:22,020
comes out and says yes it's exactly like

1571
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:23,759
that only it was the Soviet it wasn't

1572
01:08:28,610 --> 01:08:26,279
the Nazis because here the vested

1573
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:28,620
interest is to derail our attention from

1574
01:08:33,289 --> 01:08:31,440
how much the notification happened with

1575
01:08:36,110 --> 01:08:33,299
American state liberty all that

1576
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:36,120
went out the door the wrong people one

1577
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:39,839
the right people were eliminated and her

1578
01:08:44,809 --> 01:08:42,080
sources are official

1579
01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:44,819
Roswell thing is silly it doesn't it

1580
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:46,500
doesn't matter it doesn't matter the

1581
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:48,480
problem is that people can't realize

1582
01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:51,839
that Nazis were amulgated into the

1583
01:08:55,490 --> 01:08:53,580
American system because when the the

1584
01:08:59,150 --> 01:08:55,500
Nazis comes values

1585
01:09:02,450 --> 01:08:59,160
and her sources are all

1586
01:09:05,209 --> 01:09:02,460
you know lining up official people still

1587
01:09:07,249 --> 01:09:05,219
in it's like all your reasons for

1588
01:09:09,229 --> 01:09:07,259
doubting the Tom de long thing applies

1589
01:09:11,209 --> 01:09:09,239
to her only you're not applying it to

1590
01:09:12,590 --> 01:09:11,219
her then comes the next book and you

1591
01:09:14,809 --> 01:09:12,600
will notice something

1592
01:09:17,930 --> 01:09:14,819
everything she writes about is already

1593
01:09:20,749 --> 01:09:17,940
written about she's really taking stuff

1594
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:20,759
that is already there and then she's not

1595
01:09:24,110 --> 01:09:22,799
true that's not true phenomena read I

1596
01:09:26,150 --> 01:09:24,120
tell you what I'm gonna even cut this

1597
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:26,160
out read phenomena if we can come back

1598
01:09:29,209 --> 01:09:27,779
and and talk about it but I don't think

1599
01:09:35,630 --> 01:09:29,219
you

1600
01:09:37,130 --> 01:09:35,640
what do I know I'd never met him but but

1601
01:09:38,689 --> 01:09:37,140
you don't even think he's real

1602
01:09:41,450 --> 01:09:38,699
oh yeah yeah

1603
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:41,460
a real uh how that is abilities are real

1604
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:43,199
yes

1605
01:09:49,130 --> 01:09:47,040
that yeah

1606
01:09:51,709 --> 01:09:49,140
yeah I mean are you open to the

1607
01:09:55,250 --> 01:09:51,719
possibility that he's fake

1608
01:09:58,130 --> 01:09:55,260
I remember you know what I was 16 years

1609
01:10:00,650 --> 01:09:58,140
old I saw a recording of him on

1610
01:10:03,050 --> 01:10:00,660
Norwegian television a recording

1611
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:03,060
10 year old recording or something

1612
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:05,040
and he

1613
01:10:11,330 --> 01:10:07,440
appealed to everyone at home

1614
01:10:13,550 --> 01:10:11,340
to do something and I did it

1615
01:10:15,410 --> 01:10:13,560
I can't remember if there was a spoon of

1616
01:10:17,330 --> 01:10:15,420
the clock because I've been manipulating

1617
01:10:18,530 --> 01:10:17,340
clocks and Spoon all my life and I think

1618
01:10:20,330 --> 01:10:18,540
that was the cook

1619
01:10:22,430 --> 01:10:20,340
of course it happened and then I

1620
01:10:24,250 --> 01:10:22,440
realized later that it was a recording I

1621
01:10:26,510 --> 01:10:24,260
thought it was live you understand

1622
01:10:29,450 --> 01:10:26,520
that's my first meeting I think video

1623
01:10:36,830 --> 01:10:33,050
so he so a broken clock started to work

1624
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,840
and he was the he was the like the Nexus

1625
01:10:42,350 --> 01:10:38,400
for that

1626
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,360
of course it was my own but yes yeah so

1627
01:10:45,649 --> 01:10:44,159
so that's my first meeting with Yuri

1628
01:10:49,550 --> 01:10:45,659
Geller

1629
01:10:50,770 --> 01:10:49,560
so this this foray into extended

1630
01:10:52,910 --> 01:10:50,780
Consciousness

1631
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:52,920
contradicts a lot of this other stuff

1632
01:10:57,649 --> 01:10:55,140
that you spin out there you know because

1633
01:11:00,169 --> 01:10:57,659
this would have absolutely yeah because

1634
01:11:02,810 --> 01:11:00,179
this admittedly take us to non-human

1635
01:11:05,870 --> 01:11:02,820
intelligence right because that is the

1636
01:11:07,490 --> 01:11:05,880
big barrier to non-human intelligence is

1637
01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:07,500
that Consciousness can't survive death

1638
01:11:11,870 --> 01:11:09,780
Consciousness can't leave the body so

1639
01:11:14,450 --> 01:11:11,880
we'd immediately have to look at

1640
01:11:16,370 --> 01:11:14,460
non-human intelligence particularly ET

1641
01:11:17,930 --> 01:11:16,380
intelligence in a completely different

1642
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:17,940
perspective now your buddy Joseph

1643
01:11:23,149 --> 01:11:20,400
Farrell who I'm always picking on is he

1644
01:11:25,130 --> 01:11:23,159
down with that in terms of there are

1645
01:11:28,370 --> 01:11:25,140
these extended Consciousness Realms

1646
01:11:30,770 --> 01:11:28,380
where things are happening that are uh

1647
01:11:32,689 --> 01:11:30,780
from a conventional scientific physics

1648
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:32,699
standpoint unexplainable it is

1649
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,000
unexplainable that URI Geller can do

1650
01:11:41,570 --> 01:11:39,120
that that URI Geller can precipitate you

1651
01:11:44,810 --> 01:11:41,580
doing that it's uh and it therefore

1652
01:11:46,850 --> 01:11:44,820
takes all physics and puts physics as

1653
01:11:49,610 --> 01:11:46,860
kind of

1654
01:11:51,709 --> 01:11:49,620
it obsoletes physics as being completely

1655
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:51,719
incomplete in terms of our understanding

1656
01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:53,760
our understanding of propulsion our

1657
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:56,159
understanding of how UFOs work are

1658
01:12:00,590 --> 01:11:57,600
extending our understanding of

1659
01:12:02,750 --> 01:12:00,600
interstellar travel all that is out the

1660
01:12:06,590 --> 01:12:02,760
window because you made that clock move

1661
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:10,490
yeah I guess you can you can put all the

1662
01:12:16,850 --> 01:12:13,440
look if you show me a miracle I'm not

1663
01:12:19,070 --> 01:12:16,860
gonna change my Paradigm 24 you talk to

1664
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:19,080
the wrong guy 99 will change their

1665
01:12:26,570 --> 01:12:22,080
paradigm if I was a skeptic change it to

1666
01:12:29,330 --> 01:12:26,580
100 but in my Paradigm uh there's room

1667
01:12:31,729 --> 01:12:29,340
for it's much more nuanced than that so

1668
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:31,739
I don't need a miracle to like oh now I

1669
01:12:37,310 --> 01:12:34,560
change my mind there's room for many

1670
01:12:41,209 --> 01:12:37,320
many potential

1671
01:12:44,209 --> 01:12:41,219
um nuances to either that or that so in

1672
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:44,219
Jacobson's case I'm sure that there's an

1673
01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:46,080
agenda they want out but they know

1674
01:12:51,890 --> 01:12:49,320
already that this look the point of a

1675
01:12:54,530 --> 01:12:51,900
limited hangout isn't isn't to

1676
01:12:57,050 --> 01:12:54,540
neither to contradict the

1677
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:57,060
established or to introduce a revolution

1678
01:13:03,410 --> 01:13:00,480
it is to stifle the revolution because

1679
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,420
so many already doubt the official that

1680
01:13:08,930 --> 01:13:05,280
we have to spin

1681
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:08,940
this descent so we put in something that

1682
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,760
admits that yes the official isn't true

1683
01:13:17,209 --> 01:13:13,920
but here is how it is true you

1684
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:17,219
understand so that we don't start you

1685
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:19,440
know going to and this is the same with

1686
01:13:24,290 --> 01:13:21,840
the with the Holocaust thing it's like

1687
01:13:25,729 --> 01:13:24,300
as soon as people start developing some

1688
01:13:29,450 --> 01:13:25,739
of the

1689
01:13:31,250 --> 01:13:29,460
propaganda that was made then oh you're

1690
01:13:33,169 --> 01:13:31,260
supposed to be a Nazi if you don't I

1691
01:13:34,130 --> 01:13:33,179
don't buy into that so if I do that

1692
01:13:35,689 --> 01:13:34,140
either but that's not the kind of

1693
01:13:36,910 --> 01:13:35,699
conversation we want to have the

1694
01:13:40,130 --> 01:13:36,920
connections

1695
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,140
but that is what people do right well

1696
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:42,719
that's what not us people not the two of

1697
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:44,640
us talking here but the and the thing

1698
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:46,560
that I would challenge you on and we can

1699
01:13:49,610 --> 01:13:48,000
follow up on any of these and I've

1700
01:13:51,770 --> 01:13:49,620
rolled into the show if you want to just

1701
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:51,780
send me a telegram message with some of

1702
01:13:57,890 --> 01:13:54,000
this stuff but Joseph Farrell and

1703
01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:57,900
Roswell Nazi thing is is a non-starter

1704
01:14:03,169 --> 01:14:00,480
once you understand that you made that

1705
01:14:06,050 --> 01:14:03,179
clock move because when you make that

1706
01:14:10,370 --> 01:14:06,060
clock move now you have to incorporate

1707
01:14:13,550 --> 01:14:10,380
in all the remote viewing stuff all the

1708
01:14:17,870 --> 01:14:13,560
stuff outside of Consciousness all the

1709
01:14:20,149 --> 01:14:17,880
Joe mcmonacle uh remote viewing Mars a

1710
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,159
million years ago you have to John

1711
01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:22,560
Brandenburg and the

1712
01:14:28,910 --> 01:14:26,159
profiles of the Isotopes all that comes

1713
01:14:31,370 --> 01:14:28,920
into play Joseph Farrell has his fingers

1714
01:14:33,770 --> 01:14:31,380
in the dike saying look guys I'm going

1715
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:33,780
to give you this explanation that keeps

1716
01:14:39,410 --> 01:14:36,239
everything in this materialist Paradigm

1717
01:14:42,110 --> 01:14:39,420
as soon as that Dam breaks then the most

1718
01:14:46,130 --> 01:14:42,120
parsimonious explanation is

1719
01:14:48,610 --> 01:14:46,140
UFO UAP non-human intelligence ET it

1720
01:14:53,570 --> 01:14:51,709
uh again that's a black white thing I

1721
01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:53,580
don't buy into there's really that

1722
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:55,920
there's a reality there's burden inside

1723
01:15:01,010 --> 01:14:58,560
or the other look someone you we agree

1724
01:15:03,110 --> 01:15:01,020
that human beings Master anti-gravity

1725
01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:03,120
right

1726
01:15:07,130 --> 01:15:04,500
I don't care

1727
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:07,140
okay so you don't think any

1728
01:15:13,130 --> 01:15:10,080
no human in history if in ancient times

1729
01:15:16,189 --> 01:15:13,140
in this time no no deep State nobody has

1730
01:15:19,010 --> 01:15:16,199
ever managed to break the loss of the

1731
01:15:22,490 --> 01:15:19,020
physics we presented well if you expand

1732
01:15:25,490 --> 01:15:22,500
it like you know like uh a lot of people

1733
01:15:28,610 --> 01:15:25,500
really like uh who's that guy is on Joe

1734
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:28,620
Rogan all the time Eric Weinstein I do

1735
01:15:32,990 --> 01:15:30,560
not I think he's I think there's so many

1736
01:15:35,209 --> 01:15:33,000
holes in his argument be super popular

1737
01:15:36,530 --> 01:15:35,219
millions and millions of views on Rogan

1738
01:15:38,570 --> 01:15:36,540
and Lex fried and all the rest of that

1739
01:15:42,530 --> 01:15:38,580
but the one thing that he says

1740
01:15:44,890 --> 01:15:42,540
as a a an elite mathematician who's

1741
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:44,900
plugged into physics he goes

1742
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:48,239
anti-gravity he goes look here are the

1743
01:15:51,890 --> 01:15:48,960
people

1744
01:15:54,649 --> 01:15:51,900
here's the line of published work from

1745
01:15:57,410 --> 01:15:54,659
back in the 50s he goes I know the line

1746
01:16:00,530 --> 01:15:57,420
of uh who's connected to this technology

1747
01:16:02,810 --> 01:16:00,540
he goes I've talked to those people they

1748
01:16:04,970 --> 01:16:02,820
do not they say there's no there there

1749
01:16:06,890 --> 01:16:04,980
in terms of people who are working on it

1750
01:16:08,810 --> 01:16:06,900
he said we'd love to work on it we have

1751
01:16:11,689 --> 01:16:08,820
this guy down here in Austin Texas this

1752
01:16:14,330 --> 01:16:11,699
guy here but I know the research it

1753
01:16:16,729 --> 01:16:14,340
isn't there and that's another Joseph

1754
01:16:19,930 --> 01:16:16,739
Farrell kind of silliness is that do you

1755
01:16:23,450 --> 01:16:19,940
think Bob lassar is making it up yes

1756
01:16:26,030 --> 01:16:23,460
okay well if there's no if there's no

1757
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:26,040
Blacklist is exposed by this this most

1758
01:16:31,010 --> 01:16:28,800
recent round I mean he Stanton Friedman

1759
01:16:33,110 --> 01:16:31,020
kind of busted his ass five years ago

1760
01:16:35,149 --> 01:16:33,120
okay okay never mind that if it's only

1761
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:35,159
white research there's no such thing as

1762
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:37,040
black research

1763
01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:43,920
in gravity only yes there is but so if

1764
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,280
you take here's what you do to if you

1765
01:16:51,470 --> 01:16:48,719
want to get as close as you could to

1766
01:16:53,630 --> 01:16:51,480
under understanding that is you take the

1767
01:16:55,250 --> 01:16:53,640
smartest guy in the room and I don't

1768
01:16:57,050 --> 01:16:55,260
think Eric Weinstein is the smartest guy

1769
01:16:58,970 --> 01:16:57,060
in the world but let's let him stand in

1770
01:17:01,130 --> 01:16:58,980
because the smartest guy is a hijacked

1771
01:17:04,010 --> 01:17:01,140
into black projects no that's this

1772
01:17:06,890 --> 01:17:04,020
that's his point is that we still have a

1773
01:17:10,570 --> 01:17:06,900
basically functioning uh academian

1774
01:17:12,770 --> 01:17:10,580
research community that is filled with

1775
01:17:15,470 --> 01:17:12,780
co-conspirators and and he himself

1776
01:17:19,310 --> 01:17:15,480
admits that now more than ever it's

1777
01:17:22,610 --> 01:17:19,320
stifled it's not uh yes but the point is

1778
01:17:25,130 --> 01:17:22,620
we can we can trace the Fingerprints of

1779
01:17:27,050 --> 01:17:25,140
the scientists who would be involved

1780
01:17:28,010 --> 01:17:27,060
okay let me ask you this he said hola do

1781
01:17:30,530 --> 01:17:28,020
you understand do you understand my

1782
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:30,540
point so you can follow their record of

1783
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:32,640
published papers you can follow the

1784
01:17:36,770 --> 01:17:34,560
record of good research you can follow

1785
01:17:38,750 --> 01:17:36,780
the record of the research Associates

1786
01:17:40,850 --> 01:17:38,760
and the people that work under them and

1787
01:17:43,550 --> 01:17:40,860
you can go talk to them and you can put

1788
01:17:47,090 --> 01:17:43,560
together a pretty good record of is

1789
01:17:48,890 --> 01:17:47,100
there some huge thing that is outside of

1790
01:17:50,930 --> 01:17:48,900
that

1791
01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:50,940
there wasn't enough time there isn't

1792
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:54,300
enough time in the day to have all that

1793
01:17:58,610 --> 01:17:57,360
kind of stuff okay okay let's move away

1794
01:18:01,130 --> 01:17:58,620
from that approach I have another

1795
01:18:03,950 --> 01:18:01,140
approach that will bring back the same

1796
01:18:05,930 --> 01:18:03,960
point although in the 50s there were

1797
01:18:08,209 --> 01:18:05,940
open articles about their anti-gravity

1798
01:18:10,610 --> 01:18:08,219
research but let me ask you this are you

1799
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:10,620
open to the idea that there are some

1800
01:18:16,430 --> 01:18:14,400
physical organisms humanoids let's

1801
01:18:19,550 --> 01:18:16,440
forget about biological

1802
01:18:22,490 --> 01:18:19,560
beings as UFOs like that they are

1803
01:18:24,350 --> 01:18:22,500
biological or experimentional or time

1804
01:18:26,030 --> 01:18:24,360
travelers all that are you open to the

1805
01:18:29,570 --> 01:18:26,040
idea that on

1806
01:18:33,530 --> 01:18:29,580
some other planets or or Celestial body

1807
01:18:35,209 --> 01:18:33,540
there are beings who has who Master

1808
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,219
anti-gravity

1809
01:18:39,950 --> 01:18:37,920
can you open to that idea sure okay then

1810
01:18:42,290 --> 01:18:39,960
I don't understand what is the big deal

1811
01:18:43,490 --> 01:18:42,300
with humans not mastering it

1812
01:18:46,130 --> 01:18:43,500
then

1813
01:18:47,689 --> 01:18:46,140
thanks again to Al Borealis from former

1814
01:18:50,030 --> 01:18:47,699
Borealis for joining me today on

1815
01:18:53,149 --> 01:18:50,040
skeptico boy I usually tee up a question

1816
01:18:56,209 --> 01:18:53,159
be too many of them to do we covered so

1817
01:18:59,810 --> 01:18:56,219
much ground and uh I do really respect

1818
01:19:01,790 --> 01:18:59,820
Al and where he's coming from and uh you

1819
01:19:04,430 --> 01:19:01,800
know it got a little tense there for a

1820
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:04,440
minute but in general I mean you just

1821
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:06,960
don't find people who are willing to

1822
01:19:12,649 --> 01:19:10,800
engage at this depth when you have some

1823
01:19:14,689 --> 01:19:12,659
kind of differences of opinion and I

1824
01:19:16,729 --> 01:19:14,699
really respect and appreciate that about

1825
01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:16,739
Al and I love a show I've learned so

1826
01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:20,280
much from his show so uh that's off to

1827
01:19:25,850 --> 01:19:22,080
him and uh I really appreciate him

1828
01:19:27,530 --> 01:19:25,860
joining me stay with me on skeptico let

1829
01:19:29,390 --> 01:19:27,540
me hear from you

1830
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,400
let me know what kind of shows we might

1831
01:19:34,490 --> 01:19:31,679
do together that is you have somebody

1832
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:34,500
you'd love to hear on skeptico and I'd

1833
01:19:38,330 --> 01:19:35,820
like to work with you to make that

1834
01:19:40,970 --> 01:19:38,340
happen because I think that's fun and

1835
01:19:43,729 --> 01:19:40,980
engaging and brings us together and kind

1836
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,739
of creates a reality to this thing where

1837
01:19:48,050 --> 01:19:45,600
I'm just talking into this microphone

1838
01:19:50,330 --> 01:19:48,060
over here and then you're magically kind

1839
01:19:52,370 --> 01:19:50,340
of listening on the other end let's make

1840
01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:52,380
it real let's close the loop